Show Notes for AppsJack Podcast Episode 6 - Delivering Products and Services
We had a great conversation with some seriously smart and educated peeps about the future of product & service delivery, differences between products and services, virtual reality, robotics, human needs and work. Listen soon!
- Topic: Delivering Products and Services
- Recorded 4/15/17 in West Seattle, WA
- Guests: Josh Bosworth, Steve Kubacki, Ele Munjeli, Andrew Sengul
SECTION 1 - DEFINITIONS AND EXAMPLES - DIFFERENCES AND COMMONALITIES BETWEEN DELIVERING PRODUCTS & SERVICES - DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT MAKES A PRODUCT AND SERVICE THEMSELVES
- Eli
- Beyond staff augmentation
- Bundling services into a product
- Services as they interact are discreet
- Better to think of services as products
- Can't / don't want to sell "golden handcuffs"
- "Productized services"
- Product is the mature interface of the service
- Cloud is / was abstract and nebulous but truly is concrete and needs to be
- Virtues of productizing services
- Have a set price for the service is a key maturity step
- Continuing to abstract and simplify
- Mass customization as a goal for infrastructure
- "Nobody misses the cashiers."
- We don't idealize servants (people in services) because of democracy.
- Andrew
- Toil is linear work that doesn't scale
- Can toil be eliminated?
- Josh
- Do services necessarily have humans involved?
- Shovel example
- Shovel ordering today - digitally
- Old ways of getting shovels
- Outcomes of services
- Eric
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- Product as a metaphor for maturity
SECTION 2 - THE IDEAL ROLE FOR HUMANS IN OUR BUSINESS AND WORK PROCESSES - FUNCTIONS TO RESERVE FOR HUMANS - WHAT WE SHOULD NOT AUTOMATE - ETHICS
- Josh
- The power of human massage and touch. Irreplaceable?
- Analysis as part of the sales/delivery process seems to still be appreciated.
- User reviews the "analog" of storytelling in the digital domain.
- Eric
- Ripple effects caused by small human interactions.
- The idea of 'displacement' when people are no longer needed in systems/processes/supply chains.
- Need to think systematically to plan to pick up the waste and displacement (delta) from a previous change. This has always been a thing.
- Ele
- Differences between "good service" and just plain service.
- We don't like to see servants (people in service/delivery processes).
- "The new paradigm of work."
- Now mass customization, not mass production.
- Steve
- The importance of human touch for human development.
- Need to create and reserve social connectedness.
- Nature is unique and unpredictable, dynamic.
- Humans have a draw to uniqueness.
- Surgical outcomes are dramatically better if the doctor spends time talking to the patient.
- Not all occupations suit everyone.
- Andrew
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- Many automated processes lack storytelling.
- New economy and new job variety is very limited.
Section 3 - The future, the fidelity of virtual reality and the built world
- Andrew
- The empathy box.
- Journey the game.
- A VR world for politicians who love fame but do it safely and virtually.
- Eric
- Help the politicians by helping them get out of the way.
- 5 Senses and fidelity: just how complete is the virtual thing?
- Josh
- Experiences with VR.
- Desire to see loved ones in VR space.
- The VR hardware store and associate.
- Steve
- The power of imagination.
- We're kind of doing virtual reality in our minds.
- VR and religion.
- What do we want to practice in VR?
- Directly vote through our machines to make decisions.
- Make the world more diplomatic.
- Ele
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- The human brain is kind of digital (neurons fire on and off).
- VR is a matter of fidelity.
- Dreams are a virtual experience.
- Use of VR in Taiwan to build empathy between people.
- VR to extend our humanity.
- VR to "visit your mother" and other loved ones.
- Politicians should be open source robots.
- VR as a place to be safely deviant.
SECTION 4 - THE FUTURE OF WORK, EMPLOYMENT, TOIL AND COERCIVE SITUATIONS - IDEAL JOBS - PROS AND CONS OF AUTOMATION
- Eric
- The coin of automation. What is it?
- Ele
- Automation as liberation technology; eliminating toil.
- Automation is your super power.
- Delegation is a kind of automation.
- Need to teach automation, its pros and cons.
- Automation as a spiritual practice. Recognize toil when you come across it. Design and decision-making / project management issue.
- A personal journey to automate all of our own toil away.
- Craft is not toil.
- Steve
- Automation is not necessarily a good thing.
- Automation creating more and more poor people.
- The way we're dealing with automation is not working.
- Does automation always create greater choice for the employee?
- When things are automated, who are the beneficiaries (goes up to the top and to the automaters).
- People need merit, accountability, decision-making so it is not toil.
- Job, work environment and mindset all have an impact on what is toil and gives meaning.
- Andrew
- Toil and non-toil tasks.
- The cost of non-toil tasks.
- Josh
- Toil very subjective and situational. Hard to generalize about it.